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wonder when we will get our first national muslim public holiday ?
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Intresting....
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The south should have left while we had the chance! [img]wink.gif[/img]
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wonder when we will get our first national muslim public holiday ?
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not exactly.Originally posted by Spunkey1pestic:
Hey-
Someone, anyone [img]graemlins/thinking.gif[/img]
Does the UK have film rating and decency Laws?
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/Customers/misc_exempt.html
difficult to summarise so here's the whole thing:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">this is how a documentary found its way into shops that was basically porn. it was exempt from classification because it was deemed "educational" by the makers.EXEMPT VIDEOS
The Video Recordings Act requires that all video works supplied in Britain must have been classified by the body designated to perform this task, namely the British Board of Film Classification, unless they fall into one or another of the exempt areas. There are three such areas:
works which, taken as a whole, are designed to inform, educate or instruct;
works which, taken as a whole, are concerned with sport, religion or music;
video games.
Inevitably there is an element of interpretation required here. In particular, it may be a matter of judgement whether a work, taken as a whole, is essentially a work of information or entertainment. Documentary material, for example, may easily fall into either of these categories.
Having reached a decision about whether the work falls into one of these areas, the distributor has then to ask a second question, since works lose their exemption if they include, to any significant extent, any of the following:
human sexual activity or acts of force or restraint associated with such activity;
mutilation or torture of, or other acts of gross violence towards, humans or animals;
human genital organs or human urinary or excretory functions;
techniques likely to be useful in the commission of offences;
or are likely to any significant extent to stimulate or encourage such sexual activities,
or are likely to any extent to encourage mutilation, torture or gross violence,
or are likely to any significant extent to stimulate or encourage the commission of offences.
If the work does include any of the above elements or is likely to stimulate or encourage them, then the exemption is lost and that work must be submitted to the Board for classification.
WHO DECIDES WHETHER A WORK IS EXEMPT OR NOT?
Decisions as to whether a work falls into one of the exempt areas or includes material that loses the exemption can only be made by the distributor or supplier. The Board's role is purely to classify works submitted to it. The Board has no authority to make any decision about whether submitted works could be exempt, and many exempt works are given a classification simply because the distributor wants to warn consumers about the content.
WHAT ABOUT WORKS ALREADY CLASSIFIED ELSEWHERE OR SHOWN ON TV?
Once transferred to video for distribution in that medium, works are considered to be different from the same material broadcast on television. TV regulation is different from video regulation, and even from film regulation and, by law, a new decision has to be made. Any decisions made anywhere else in the world are similarly irrelevant. It has also to be born in mind that the version for video release may not always be the same as that shown on TV here or seen in other countries.
WHAT HAPPENS IF A MISTAKE IS MADE?
The Video Recordings Act is enforced mainly by local Trading Standards Officers. Their role is to visit stores and inspect the stock and to check that no unclassified works are being sold or rented and that all other details of relevant legislation are being observed. They are entitled to take an 'exempt' work from a shop if they doubt its exempt status. If, on inspecting that work, they reach the conclusion that it should not have been considered exempt, the distributor could be prosecuted. This course of action only seems likely where a clear breach of the act has taken place. Provided that the distributor has a reasonable case for believing that the work was exempt, court action is unlikely. More often, and there have been few cases of this sort, the distributor is advised that the work should be classified. There is, to date, no case law to help determine what is meant by phrases like 'to a significant extent' or 'taken as a whole'.
EXEMPT SUPPLY
Even if a work itself is not exempt, it is possible that its supply is. The Act defines an exempt supply as one which is neither 'a supply for reward' nor 'in the course or furtherance of a business'. So, if there is no exchange of money associated in any way with the transaction, and as long as the supply is entirely unrelated to any business activity, the supply could be considered exempt. This would not be the case, for instance, if videos were being lent or given away to attract customers to a shop, even one whose actual business was unrelated to video.
There are other circumstances in which a supply can be considered exempt, such as the record of an event which is to be circulated only to those connected with the event - e.g. a wedding. These and other details can be found in the Video Recordings Acts 1984 and 1993 which can be obtained from The Stationery Office.
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Nothing is illegal unless you get caught
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Thanks Miker, That helped alot-
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 22, 2004 10:20 AM: Message edited by: Spunkey1pestic ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whereas it is, of course, more desirable to have a world of illiterate, ill educated people who are starving to death for want of modern conveniences.Originally posted by jb_617:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by miker:
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"Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment that will never be again... And what do we teach our children? We teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of France.
Oh, wait a minute, I just realised, WE DO.
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The world is fucked. Deal with it.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">PLEASE learn to read:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">--------When will we also teach them what they are?
The world is beautiful. Get over it.
PLEASE learn to credit people when you plagarise their work [img]wink.gif[/img] ....naaa I'm just kidding
I know that quote, worded slightly differently I'll admit, and I think I know pretty much what it's getting at.
I also think that the sentiment is bobbins.
But that's just me, Libra, the scales.
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"God... has formed us moral agents... that we may promote the happiness of those with whom He has placed us in society, by acting honestly towards all, benevolently to those who fall within our way, respecting sacredly their rights, bodily and mental, and cherishing especially their freedom of conscience, as we value our own." --Thomas Jefferson to Miles King, 1814. ME 14:197
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then I would say it's quite clear that you do not have children of your own. My only problem with the quote is it doesn't take into account those who are disabled ... but he was speaking in pre-P.C. times. Look at Stephen Hawking ...I also think that the sentiment is bobbins.
The Picasso quotes have become a semi-obsession. Perhaps he really was a genius after all ... or maybe just another liberal swinger-slut ;-)
Don't EVER use the "You don't have Kids." routine on me. For all you know I might have been born completely sterile and want nothing more than to father children.
As it happens, I wasn't, but you didn't know that. I do want children though. I am not some cynical, world weary, "I hate kids" person. Don't hide behind that trite crap. People with children are the majority, stop oppressing me, fascist. [img]wink.gif[/img]
However, the quote you posted, to me at least, seems to be saying "We waste childrens time with formal education when there is so much beauty in them and the world." True, i'll give you that. But I consider the sentiment to be total crap, no the ideal.
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"No experiment can be more interesting than that we are now trying, and which we trust will end in establishing the fact, that man may be governed by reason and truth. Our first object should therefore be, to leave open to him all the avenues to truth. The most effectual hitherto found, is the freedom of the press. It is, therefore, the first shut up by those who fear the investigation of their actions." --Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1804. ME 11:33
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
- Martin Luther King
Oh and since we brought of Thomas J-
This is Golden:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants..."
-hey JB...
Yes, That was my supision by your being rather well Versed on the matter- Your PM confirmed It-
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 22, 2004 10:58 AM: Message edited by: Spunkey1pestic ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For all you know, my kids could be adopted [img]wink.gif[/img]Originally posted by jb_617:
Don't EVER use the "You don't have Kids." routine on me. For all you know I might have been born completely sterile and want nothing more than to father children.
As it happens, I wasn't, but you didn't know that. I do want children though. I am not some cynical, world weary, "I hate kids" person. Don't hide behind that trite crap. People with children are the majority, stop oppressing me, fascist. [img]wink.gif[/img]
However, the quote you posted, to me at least, seems to be saying "We waste childrens time with formal education when there is so much beauty in them and the world." True, i'll give you that. But I consider the sentiment to be total crap, no the ideal.
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Two things opened my eyes to how the world works:
One was art college, the other was running my own VAT registered company and dealing with an accountant who knew about law and loopholes.
Of the two, art is closer to nature, and being an "earthy" virgo I spose that is why I gravitate to being a tree-hugger. The law and such is but an illusion so we may pretend we are higher lifeforms. Sometimes I wonder if the pinnacle of all God's creations isn't the ever-enduring bacteria ...
(opinions subject to change and mood swings)
EDIT:
Having missed answering your point, I should add that I believe Picasso's sentiment is that we should teach children that there are no limits. Because, really, there are none.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 22, 2004 11:13 AM: Message edited by: miker ]</font>
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